Showing posts with label OSU QB's. Show all posts
Showing posts with label OSU QB's. Show all posts

Monday, April 24, 2023

Michigan Monday: Is the S2 Costing CJ Stroud Millions?

The NFL used the Wonderlic test for 50 years to measure QB's intelligence in the NFL Draft process.  The Wonderlic tested general intelligence and many felt it was not a good tool for predicting success in the NFL.   A new test was developed out of Nashville called the S2 Test to determine how a player might succeed in the NFL (mostly QB's).   How does it work?


The S2 Cognition test evaluates athletes in four categories with subcategories in the first three and then provides an overall score in the form of a percentile where the athlete falls among his or her peers.  

The categories and subcategories the S2 Cognition test appraises are: 

  • Visual processing
    • Perception speed
    • Trajectory estimation
  • Rhythm/timing
    • Rhythm control
    • Timing control
  • Motor control
    • Distraction control
    • Impulse control
    • Stopping control
  • Instinctive learning
For example: “A series of diamonds flash on the screen for 16 milliseconds each. Every diamond is missing a point, and the test taker must determine — using left, right, up or down keys — which part is missing.”

A section is designed to test “how many objects an athlete can keep track of at the same time.”

“In another, there are 22 figures on the screen and the athlete must locate a specific one as quickly as possible. The object might be a red triangle embedded in other shapes that are also red.”

A score over 80 is considered good.  

The test has been pretty accurate so far and the guys that have scored low have struggled at the NFL level, but the guys that have scored high have done well. 

For example: Drew Brees, Patrick Mahomes, and Josh Allen all have scored at the top of test.  Joe Burrow scored 97% and even the last pick in last year's draft Brock Purdy was in the mid-90's.

So how did this year's draft eligible highly ranked QB's score on the test? (Results are confidential so these are not confirmed)

Bryce Young 98%
Will Levis 93%
DTR 91%
Anthony Richardson 79% 
Hendon Hooker 49% 
CJ Stroud 18%

Please note, the S2 organization which will not get into specifics are saying that 2 scores that have been listed on the internet are not correct.  The list above did not include all the QB's that took the test or were listed on the internet.  I only took the top QB's from the list, for example the Stanford QB scored a 99. 

After CJ Stroud carved up the Georgia defense in the CFP, it was a no brainer for him to jump into the NFL Draft.  He was considered a lock to go in the top 5 and probably #2 to Houston.  He is 6'3 218 pounds and has the frame and arm of an NFL QB.  Now we are hearing he could be dropping down draft boards. 

With Ohio State's QB's struggling in the NFL and a score of 18 on the S2, CJ could be falling fast.  It could also be the reason why we are seeing that Bryce Young seems to be a lock at #1.   I was a bit surprised that Carolina quickly tagged Bryce as the #1 draft pick and that Will Levis moved up to the 2nd QB taken on many mock draft boards.  Bryce has had a ton of success at Alabama but is under 6'0 tall, Will Levis is 6'3 and over 230 pounds but has struggled with accuracy at Kentucky.   I believe the NFL draft rooms are taking this S2 test seriously and moved both of them up.   

Starting on Thursday, we will see what teams think of the S2 and where CJ lands.  Then the real test will begin with the results coming on the field.

Tuesday, December 29, 2020

Michigan Tuesday: Arizona Loves Former Michigan Coaches

For all the places you can coach college football, Arizona has to be pretty nice option.   You have that dry heat in the desert and U of A is a basketball school.  If you compete each year, your probably going to be employed for a long time.  Arizona decided to go on the wild Rich Rod ride and got burned by the loose cannon that is RR.  

Arizona has now gotten another former Michigan coach with the hiring of Jedd Fisch.   This was a great decision, Jedd has interim head coaching experience at UCLA and a ton of pro experience in Jacksonville and with the Rams.   He of course led Jimmy's offense the first year he was in A2.    Hiring Jedd was long overdue.  

Jedd now reportedly has his sights on other ex-Michigan coach, this time its defensive coordinator Don Brown.   This also makes some sense.  Defense in the PAC 12 is optional and Don could bring some real pressure to the desert.  It's not a terrible decision but as you know, the book is out on how to beat his defense.  

Jedd is also expected to hire former Wolverine analyst Jimmie Dougherty who is currently the Passing Coordinator at UCLA.  I would expect Jimmie to be the new OC.   I can't argue with any of these decisions, but if I was the leadership team at Arizona, I would be a bit leery of hiring former Wolverine coaches.   At least Jedd and Jimmie left on their own accord. 

On a side note, it would be interesting to see how the hiring of Don Brown would impact the $1.7M that U of M owes him.  


  • The biggest news of the day was that Aidan Hutchinson decided to stay another year and play DE for the Wolverines.   This is great news as Michigan will have a ton of holes to fill on defense next year.    Having an All Big Ten quality DE is very important to next years success.   Aidan broke his ankle against IU and should be ready for Spring Ball.  If McGregor is fully healed from his ACL during his senior year of HS, that could make 2 very good DE's.  

  • MSU got blown out by Minnesota last night and Michigan's next opponent Maryland beat #6 Wisconsin.  

  • 5 years ago Jimmy "processed" a low rated DE named Rashad Weaver.  He went to Pitt and was just named an All American.   Before you go bashing that decision, this was Gary's class and he probably had to trade his spot for him.   Speaking of Gary, he is having a very good year for the Packers and it seems the light has gone on for him.  

  • Seems that spring football league is getting another Big Ten QB to join JT and Shea.  As Dwayne Haskins was released by Washington.  Maybe the XFL when the Rock re-opens that league?  I know Justin Fields is a good NFL prospect, but prior (no pun intended) to that, OSU has had a long line of failed QB's in the league.